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Embedded quotes

Postby LittleTiger on 29 Jul 2010, 23:20

Is there any way that we can have the embedded quotes restriction lifted?? Only two quotes is way too hard to "fix" when you are quoting in mafia games.....

PRETTY PLEASE???? :luff:
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby dl15 on 29 Jul 2010, 23:48

YES!! Look at my newest post in Recruitment Mafia, it's a mess! ;(
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Long Con on 30 Jul 2010, 00:52

DL: The new Poster Child for the More Multiquoting Association.
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby dl15 on 30 Jul 2010, 00:57

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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby danhm on 30 Jul 2010, 01:55

You are not limited to two quotes. You are limited to having only a quote within a quote. You know, embedded.


Here is what that means:
LittleTiger wrote:View Original Post
Is there any way that we can have the embedded quotes restriction lifted?? Only two quotes is way too hard to "fix" when you are quoting in mafia games.....

PRETTY PLEASE???? :luff:


dl15 wrote:View Original Post
YES!! Look at my newest post in Recruitment Mafia, it's a mess! ;(


Long Con wrote:View Original Post
DL: The new Poster Child for the More Multiquoting Association.


dl15 wrote:View Original Post
That's me! $:


Lots of quotes? Works fine!

Let's pretend dl15 quoted LC.

dl15 wrote:View Original Post
That's me! $:
Long Con wrote:View Original Post
DL: The new Poster Child for the More Multiquoting Association.



This too works fine. DL's post is the first quote, LC's post is the second quote. That is the limit. If you are to quote this post, you'll create a third embedded quote. This is something built into phpBB.
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby dl15 on 30 Jul 2010, 02:09

So there's no way to change it? Sucks :(
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Bree on 30 Jul 2010, 02:10

Honestly, dl15 would have been fine if he just deleted all the excess stuff. :p

Whenever I go to quote someone, if they happen to be quoting someone else, I automatically delete that. That way it's never much of a problem.


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[quote="danhm"][linkback]59505[/linkback]
[quote="dl15"][linkback]59500[/linkback] That's me! $:
[quote="Long Con"][linkback]59498[/linkback] DL:  The new Poster Child for the More Multiquoting Association.[/quote][/quote]

This too works fine. DL's post is the first quote, LC's post is the second quote. That is the limit. If you are to quote this post, you'll create a third embedded quote. This is something built into phpBB.[/quote]

See, here I'm quoting Dan quoting dl15 quoting LC. But dl15's posts and LC's posts aren't really needed, so I can delete those...

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[quote="danhm"][linkback]59505[/linkback]This too works fine. DL's post is the first quote, LC's post is the second quote. That is the limit. If you are to quote this post, you'll create a third embedded quote. This is something built into phpBB.[/quote]

..and make it look like that.
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby dl15 on 30 Jul 2010, 02:17

That I should do, but it's still annoying :shrug:
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby danhm on 30 Jul 2010, 02:40

I poked around the help files and saw that I can set it to unlimited embedded quotes. It has been done.


Now, don't go complaining about the inevitable mountain of embedded quotes! :p
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby dl15 on 30 Jul 2010, 02:46

:eek: Thanks dan you're awesome!! :D

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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Kadaj on 30 Jul 2010, 07:20

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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Tranquility on 30 Jul 2010, 08:25

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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby stlgirl on 30 Jul 2010, 08:53

Would anyone listen if I said I disagree with this change? :(
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Long Con on 30 Jul 2010, 09:03

stlgirl wrote:View Original Post
Would anyone listen if I said I disagree with this change? :(

Yes, I would listen. Why do you disagree? :?:
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby S-V-S on 30 Jul 2010, 11:43

stlgirl wrote:View Original Post
Would anyone listen if I said I disagree with this change? :(


I would like to know~ as for me, I know i had to abandon more than one post I had spent time on, because of the limit. Unlike some, I am the suck at coding, and I always screwed my links up because I never knew which linkbacks to eliminate, and which text went with what, lol~

Is there a compromise position, more than 2 but less than infinity?
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Long Con on 30 Jul 2010, 13:10

That's how it is on LP, and functionally I don't believe there has ever been an issue with it. I can't predict what stlgirl's objection will be. :burger:
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Turnip Head on 30 Jul 2010, 16:34

LP's embedded quote limit is 1, isn't it? For me it automatically deletes everything other than the direct quote.
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby LittleTiger on 30 Jul 2010, 16:57

Thank you Danhm!!! :luff:

I've never seen embedded quotes really be a problem here, before the limit was imposed, so not sure why it was implemented in the first place. It was annoying when trying to post something you worked ages on to have to go back and edit out the third embedded quote...

Maybe a compromise could be reached and maybe limit it to 3 - 5?

@TH - yes, LP does automatically strip out the embedded quotes.
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby seals on 30 Jul 2010, 17:48

it was always part of the site, it was never implemented LT. like dan said, it's part of phpbb :)
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby LittleTiger on 30 Jul 2010, 17:58

It is something you set in ACP/Post settings.... the default is "5" or you can set it to "0" for no restriction, or however many you want to allow. (:
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby stlgirl on 30 Jul 2010, 18:01

It keeps posts cleaner. Otherwise you end up with messy posts like dl's. (Sorry dl, but seriously oO) Then someone quotes that post and then you're 4 quotes in and it is even more ridiculous to read. Pretty soon you'll end up with posts like Kadaj's except they'll be real posts that nobody can make heads or tails of anymore. It makes things spammier. The limit is a reminder "hey, clean up this post" and I don't think that is a reminder we want to get rid of. Cleaning things up is a simple matter of deleting regular post text or find the
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LT: Yes, that's what Dan and seals are saying. It is a phpbb setting. Not something that we implemented.
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Turnip Head on 30 Jul 2010, 18:11

I think 3 or 4 is a good compromise. It certainly doesn't need to be any more than that, but 2 does seem a bit restricting.
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby LittleTiger on 30 Jul 2010, 18:21

Turnip Head wrote:View Original Post
I think 3 or 4 is a good compromise. It certainly doesn't need to be any more than that, but 2 does seem a bit restricting.


I have it at the default setting on RM of "5", but I agree, 3 or 4 is good.

I had not seen that message about the 2 embedded quotes restriction until the Alice game. Never seen it here at TP before that.....
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby dl15 on 30 Jul 2010, 18:28

If you want to change it, don't worry about it. I was just massively frustrated yesterday 'cause it took me a good while to put that post together. Next time (nah, there won't be a next one) I'll know better $:
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Kadaj on 30 Jul 2010, 19:03

I will never play mafia again unless I can at least have 100 embedded quotes. ;;;; ;;;; ;;;; :p
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Tranquility on 30 Jul 2010, 19:28

Kadaj wrote:View Original Post
I will never play mafia again unless I can at least have 100 embedded quotes. ;;;; ;;;; ;;;; :p
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby aapje on 30 Jul 2010, 19:51

I think it should be limited to 3 or 4. Really no need to have more than that. |:|
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Long Con on 30 Jul 2010, 20:21

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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby stlgirl on 30 Jul 2010, 20:26

LongCon: and what happens when you hit the quote button on that post? (:
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby stlgirl on 30 Jul 2010, 22:01

See, now we just get quotes like the following:

aapje wrote:View Original Post
Long Con wrote:View Original Post
aapje wrote:View Original Post
stlgirl wrote:View Original Post
stlgirl wrote:View Original Post
Also, when the hosts post the night post, could they please update the topic to reflect the current game phase? :#

Hosts: pretty please?

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Is all of that really necessary? Wouldn't this be better?

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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Long Con on 30 Jul 2010, 22:13

stlgirl wrote:View Original Post
LongCon: and what happens when you hit the quote button on that post? (:

Who would quote a crazy post like that? :p

I definitely need more than the 2 levels that we were dealing with. I do keep my posts neat and tidy, and sometimes it just preserves the overall meaning better when you can have another level or two of quoting. I agree that it should only be used with a keen post-designer's eye and experienced hand... and also that unlimited quotes is never necessary.
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby stlgirl on 30 Jul 2010, 22:15

I could compromise with 3...maybe 4...but since dan changed it I won't overrule him. (;
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Long Con on 30 Jul 2010, 22:20

stlgirl wrote:View Original Post
I could compromise with 3...maybe 4...but since dan changed it I won't overrule him. (;

Yeah... 4... and 4 can only be used in an occasion where you can back up your reasons to a panel of judges! |:|
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby aapje on 30 Jul 2010, 22:23

I vote for 3. All good comes in threes. It's called the holey Trinity for a reason |:|
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Kadaj on 31 Jul 2010, 02:40

I vote for 3 or 4, I have had absolutely no problem with the original 2 that we had, and I think 3 or 4 will be fine for everyone else. :cool:
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby S-V-S on 14 Aug 2010, 23:37

Did someone bring the restriction back?? I was just told I could not embed more than three quotes in a post, and three is too little, IMO.
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby Sparrow on 14 Aug 2010, 23:38

S-V-S wrote:View Original Post
Did someone bring the restriction back?? I was just told I could not embed more than three quotes in a post, and three is too little, IMO.


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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby seals on 14 Aug 2010, 23:51

it is 4, i believe.

and if you are having problems with the embedded quotes, come onto irc (link is on the front page of the piano under CHAT) and i can help you with it :)
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Re: Embedded quotes

Postby danhm on 14 Aug 2010, 23:53

I raised it to four. That's the most it is going to be.

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